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Stu
...controversially

http://www.tshirthell.com/muhammad.htm

and for all you who like women the way i do.... http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.ph...p?productid=588
Infi
you would sacrafice traveling the world freely to wear a stupid t-shirt



good luck seeing the pyramids
Chimi
QUOTE("Infi")

good luck seeing the pyramids


Good luck seeing them without this shirt anyway.
Infi
'Good luck seeing them without this shirt anyway.'


the shirt isn't helping us ever get close to going



just IMO, my mother has been to egypt, seen the pyramids over 20 years ago, now I talk on a cell phone, find anything on the internet, but I can't go see something for my own eyes that my mother has seen.


we think we know so much, that we are so informed, how much do we actually see?


there is a pyramid on every single one dollar USA american bill, yet at the current state its pretty much impossible for me to actually see one for my own eyes




think about that
Chimi
Tell that to the people in Egypt. They're the ones who think we're the dirty americans and all share the same political agenda.
Gloodwran(x)
/agree chimi

I have been to Egypt. I had some jack-ass try to charge me 20$ because I took a picture of a camel. Then he started talking about infidels and George Bush and all that. I recommended a good book to him and bid him good day. The pyramids are cool but stonehenge is cooler. The Great Wall is freaking amazing. Even though China is communist it's still pretty western and way better than any of the Arab countries I have been to. I think the Ali shirt is freaking genius. Funny is funny.

Glood
Infi
'They're the ones who think we're the dirty americans and all share the same political agenda.'



my point is... we need to let them know the truth, that we aren't all the same


this shirt promotes the opposite... its funny, but in a fucked up way

and imo the fucked up way outweighs the funny, especially when it could create a seriously bad situation...

its like throwing fuel on the fire
namishin
STFU

p.s. that is hilarious shit stu, but i dont expect anyone to last 5 minutes in the Middle East w/ that shirt
Gloodwran(x)
Hell you can't walk into a 7-11 with that thing on and expect to make it out alive let alone with a slurpee. And when you think about it.......

.......I bet there's an Arab version of T-shirthell.com and I bet there's some funny shit on there too.

When you point a finger at someone......there are 3 of your own pointing back at you.



Glood
Chimi
QUOTE("Infi")
my point is... we  need to let them know the truth, that we aren't all the same


They don't want to know or care to know the truth, that is the difference. If you're American, you're the same. Thats how they choose to believe and thats how they will believe.
Elsydeon
QUOTE("Chimi")
QUOTE("Infi")
my point is... we  need to let them know the truth, that we aren't all the same


They don't want to know or care to know the truth, that is the difference. If you're American, you're the same. Thats how they choose to believe and thats how they will believe.

/agree

If you ask a non-french child to draw a french person what do you get? Usually a dude in red and white striped shirt with a beret and some wine/cheese

Ask just about any non-american child to draw an american and you'll get a picture of a cowboy complete with hat, horse, and six-shooter.

Its not that the rest of the world thinks we're "dirty americans" its just what they get taught/see from an early age. (watch some good old fashioned american tv, usually its stupid people acting stupidly. Problem is, thats all most foreigners ever see of the US and assume its how all americans act.)

It just boils down to perception.
Gloodwran(x)
Elsydon is right....it does boil down to perception. And in all fairness it goes both ways.

There truly is only a small (very) percentage of Muslims that act out and claim that we are all infidels and all that. However, it is that small percentage that kidnaps and kills innocent people or crashes planes into buildings and whatnot.

Many of the Muslims I encountered in Iraq were glad that there was a U.S. presence in the area. Most of them fell safe when we (Marines) were actively patrolling, detaining, and/or killing known members of terrorist groups. Many of those families can't go out of their houses at night because they are held hostage by jihadists. They have children that can't attend school and families that can't recieve medical attention.

But even with all of that promise there are still those wily terrorists. Those are the ones ruining the fun for the rest of the Muslims. The main problem is that there is no well trained defense force for they country.

There was a band of Kurdish fighters (good guys from Northern Iraq who hate terrorists due to the fact that Saddam tested chemical weapons on them), who mobilized to attack a fortified terrorist camp. 92 of the 112 were killed simply because they lack training and support. But they tried. That is why we are there. If no one in Iraq (or any country) keeps terrorists in check then the problems get worse and more people get hurt.

Look at it like this........

When people go on killing sprees in America what happens to them? Just imagine what it would be like if there was nothing to stop them.

I have been there. I have seen the good and the bad of the country. I've played wih their children and engaged with the enemy. If I can be selective of who I fight and kill, so can they.

Or they can just knock off all this crap and we can be happy. If it keeps me from spending 7 out of 14 months in continuous rotation there, yet keeps our country safe im game.

War is not cool, It is necessary.
Halo 2 is cool, and also necessary.

Sometimes I type too much :wink:
MeGGA
Perception is reality. Usually.
Thesummonerx
I agree, it is all in what children in foreign countries are taught at a young age, many of the middle eastern countries teach that America is bad and all that is western civilization is bad. They promote a very violent version of Islam (im not muslim but i have studied religions enough to know that islam is not a violence based religion, but is twisted towards viloence by Osama bin Laden and people like him) that only leads to hate for all things that are not in strict conduct of what they believe. It is similar to the situation Hitler created for German children during WW2. Hitlers youth promoted books that taught facism and hate for other races/religions at a very young age, and if they are not taught differently and set straight, when they have children of their own, the apple will not fall far from the tree. Proper education of their youth will help them to better understand that our ways are not wrong. But until this time, bombings will continue to happen and tensions and hate will remain between the west and the middle east.
Infi
well said all of you, Gloodwren it's nice to hear a first person account of the situation there.
Stu
stfu, this post went longer than it should, because of all these things i will be buying one of them.... walking into a fukin 7-11 then moving to mexico or chili and fukin some 12 year olds
Gloodwran(x)
Stu.....can you grab me a cherry Slurpee on yer way back? Maybe some nachos too?
Liddasee
Dude, I am so going to Egypt in chaps.
asphixiation
QUOTE("Stu")
stfu, this post went longer than it should, because of all these things i will be buying one of them.... walking into a fukin 7-11 then moving to mexico or chili and fukin some 12 year olds

u dont seem all that displeased at the notion :P :shock:
asphixiation
QUOTE("Infi")
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there is a pyramid on every single one dollar USA american bill, yet at the current state its pretty much impossible for me to actually see one for my own eyes


acctually its not all that hard to see a pyramid , there are quite a few not that far away... they have plenty of pyramids in south america that you can go view and it isnt all that expensive to see them and its a lot closer to home than egypt is :D
Aeneas
QUOTE("asphixiation")

cctually its not all that hard to see a pyramid , there are quite a few not that far away...


thank god for google image search. i saw a bunch of pyramids on that.
lilthanatov
acctually its not all that hard to see a pyramid , there are quite a few not that far away... they have plenty of pyramids in south america that you can go view and it isnt all that expensive to see them and its a lot closer to home than egypt is :D[/quote]

Vegas and I think Memphis have pyramids... though their not TRUE pyramids they are there

GO GO COMMERCIALISM
Chimi
The Luxor is haunted!
Infi
QUOTE
they have plenty of pyramids in south america that you can go view and it isnt all that expensive to see them and its a lot closer to home than egypt is




...


someone failed history I guess, shit I slept my way through high school and I still know that those in south america are ZIGGURATS,

they are NOT pyramids.


What i'm saying is the truth, the pyramids you see on every single dollar bill are the ones in Egypt, and the fact that it's pretty much impossible to see one for your own eyes is pretty powerful

BTW - stop wasting your time playing this stupid ass game
asphixiation
QUOTE("Aeneas")
QUOTE("asphixiation")

cctually its not all that hard to see a pyramid , there are quite a few not that far away...


thank god for google image search. i saw a bunch of pyramids on that.


well yeah that works too u can see many images of pyramids from the comfort of ur own home :D
asphixiation
QUOTE("Infi")
QUOTE
they have plenty of pyramids in south america that you can go view and it isnt all that expensive to see them and its a lot closer to home than egypt is




...


someone failed history I guess, shit I slept my way through high school and I still know that those in south america are ZIGGURATS,

they are NOT pyramids.


shows what u know about the differences in languages :P theyre all the same structurally ... thats like saying omg u must have failed biology cause u call a cat a gato :shock:
Infi
BTW stop arguing with the idiots on the server forums, you are giving in to them


just ignore it, they are all worthless in real life so they feel the need to prove something in the game
Willow
Rofl


Infi... you giving us advice about how to handle ourselves on the forums is BEYOND ironic.


/kiss ;)
Liddasee
QUOTE("asphixiation")
QUOTE("Infi")
QUOTE
they have plenty of pyramids in south america that you can go view and it isnt all that expensive to see them and its a lot closer to home than egypt is




...


someone failed history I guess, shit I slept my way through high school and I still know that those in south america are ZIGGURATS,

they are NOT pyramids.


shows what u know about the differences in languages :P theyre all the same structurally ... thats like saying omg u must have failed biology cause u call a cat a gato :shock:


They're known both as pyramids and as ziggurats. Neither term is incorrect.
asphixiation
QUOTE("Siddalee")
QUOTE("asphixiation")
QUOTE("Infi")
QUOTE
they have plenty of pyramids in south america that you can go view and it isnt all that expensive to see them and its a lot closer to home than egypt is




...


someone failed history I guess, shit I slept my way through high school and I still know that those in south america are ZIGGURATS,

they are NOT pyramids.


shows what u know about the differences in languages :P theyre all the same structurally ... thats like saying omg u must have failed biology cause u call a cat a gato :shock:


They're known both as pyramids and as ziggurats. Neither term is incorrect.


<3 da sid :)
Infi
learn from my mistakes


NOOBS
I LOVE U ALL!

HEHE

willow is the man STILL
lilthanatov
Reading the forums makes me cry :( so much hate... feels like being a gay, jewish, black, catholic convert at a KKK meeting... ZIEG HEIL; Man I hate Illinois nazis... (Blues Brother's reference :))
asphixiation
QUOTE("lilthanatov")
Reading the forums makes me cry :( so much hate... feels like being a gay, jewish, black, catholic convert at a KKK meeting... ZIEG HEIL; Man I hate Illinois nazis... (Blues Brother's reference :))


wow its really that bad ?? :(
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