yeah i know, i wanted to start a new post on this because im not going to discuss it or vote. The amendment should stay, simple as that. But, it should cost like 100$ a bullet for any weapon so that way your ass better be in danger before you pull the trigger. I dont think there would be anymore gun violence then, only in self defense. Youre not gonna have any street thug g homie running around with a full auto weapon shooting at people. It'd cost him a fortune. People would think before they killed someone then. Shit would get expensive.

Muerta's car would be rich.

Put it with the other discussion. What makes you think you're worth you're own post? :P



Isn't that what you're doing by posting this? hah

The only problem with this idea and keeping the street thug g homie from having a gun full of bullets is most time the guns are stolen. While he is at it wouldnt he steal bullets?

well, as far as supply and demand goes. bullets wouldnt be on such a demand or would be more rare than todays ammo. plus if he stole 10, shit hes a felon. i mean youre right. but, it would be a risk factor. In order to kill someone or shoot someone with a gun you either have to spend alot of money or chance being convicted as a felon. heh. knives and bow/arrow ftw.

You know, Oabe.

It's really not that hard to make bullets.

Not that I know or anything.







>.>

<.<

why buy em? :idea: dude just buy 1 bullet then rob that mother fucker sellin them shits and your golden.

ya hellkin already mentioned but oh well.

I love people who think their ideas are SO GREAT they need their own post!

But sadly your idea sucks… Now lets look at it from a “been there tried that” standpoint. Here in Germany gasoline is $6.27 a gallon (the math from liters to gallons and Euros to Dollars was a pain in the ass). Now 78% of this cost is TAX. The theory behind this is that the high cost of gasoline would make people drive less. Guess what the roads are so full with cars that they cannot handle the amount of autos. People drive 120mph+ on the autobahn when clearly going slower (by having a speed limit) can save around 23% on fuel (based on my car going 55mph and 125mph that I conducted just so I can say “If you think the USA wastes fuel take a look at this autobahn test I did).

Now even better your idea will keep guns out of the hands of poor people. While they may not have much worth stealing we don’t want them protecting them selves from violet crimes either right?

Now of course your idea was based on preventing murder right. And surely people will say “wow it would cost way too much to commit this murder so I guess I’ll just skip it”. Consider the fact that in the US most states take away your drivers license for DWI. Would you worry about DWI MORE if it had a high ticket or a strong punishment???

Well, all out of time BYE.

first of all, thanks for saying my idea sucks. 2nd, who are you? heh. i did not say that it would completely STOP gun violence. It would lower it. Bullets are easily ready to anyone who wants them. Making them harder to obtain would clearly lower gun violence. Dont get me wrong, i think its everyones right to bare arms and protect themselves. But some shit face fuck head robbing my house could easily go down by a baseball bat or even at the extreme my 100$ bullets. You would THINK before you shot someone. Thats all thats needed. Most gun violence today is Heat-of-passion crime. People get pissed and just dont think about pulling that trigger. If its gonna cost you a grand or so to unload a clip, people will chill the fuck out. I dont mind peoples opionions on my topic, i dont at all. I enjoy discussing this idea. I may be wrong, i think it would work tho. Something i dont like is fuckheads coming in here saying it sucks and for me to get a life blah blah. Please, dont do that, its silly.

k thx bye

Making bullets harder to obtain did not prevent this:
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/...rmany.shooting/
Here in Germany you need a permit to buy bullets! Germany also has some of the toughest gun control laws in the world. Up until this happened I would hear “look at Columbine… you think Americans would learn form our gun laws”.

The fact presented above that bullets are easy make should be noted. Even more so “reloading” is so simple that you can do it in your own home.

Now that gas is expensive in the U.S. how often do you cancel a trip because of the cost? But for some reason YOU believe people will whip out a calculator while furiously mad and start figuring the cost of committing a crime. BAD NEWS the lawyer’s fees will be much higher than the price of bullets could ever be even if it is self defense.

Most important fact is that the $100 (through taxes) a bullet idea was run before congress while we had the most “gun hating” congress/president combo in history and the research even convinced them (at least to the point it did not become law) that it would not reduce crime or save lives.

If you asked 20 criminals in prison for murder if the $100 a bullet would have made the murder they committed too expensive what do you think they would say?

Lastly by making your own post you are saying that your idea is so great that is was not worthy of our other post and “deserves” its own post. Not to be mean but did even ONE person post “hey that’s a great idea” besides you?

Please keep in mind that I am not attacking YOU just your idea, oh and the fact that you needed your own post for it.

Interesting idea, but unpractial and would defentlly lead to black market bullets. Sure there would be less bullets floating around, but those crininals that need bullets woudl still find ways of getting them.

And don't forget smuggling from Mexico.

ok, well, again, this is the 2nd time that you convinced me of reposting because i think my idea is great. Where did i say that? oh yeah, i didnt. Obviously it needed a repost because people are still discussing it. And yes, more than 1 person did say it was a great idea when i brought it up in guild chat and when i discussed it publically in game. K thx.




I do like this page. Good job researching and you almost had me conviced that putting more regulations, such as buying ammo with a permit, wouldnt stop gun violence or even slow it.

But, does it not shock you that in 1998:
United States Hand Gun Deaths = 11,789
German Hand Gun Deaths = 373
- Provided by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence



I actually travel less and plan less around the gas prices now. Especially us younger college kids that are on a tight budget anyway. And no, people wouldnt STOP and THINK in a fit of rage and fury. Of course not. But when YOU are really pissed off... how wreckless are you? I wouldnt say very much. Rage is defined as violent and uncontrolled anger. I wont ask you to imgaine it for yourself so ill just give a little story :

Joe Bob works hard every day. He doesnt have explosive anger and often lets comments and attacks to his personality go unnoticed. One day, Job Bob gets off of work early only to return home to a strange car in his driveway. Joe Bob enters the house and walks upstairs to the master bedroom. Job Bob opens the door to see his wife performing oral sex on another man that is obviously far more beautiful than he is. Joe Bob leaves the room quielty not disturbing the two. He walks into the game room and picks up his five-seven pistol that he bought at a gun-show last week, as he is a collector. He returns to the room and unloads 22 bullets into his wife and into the man only stopping when realizing that the clip was empty.

Now this might not be every situation but im pretty sure in most instances people wouldnt think, "Ok i got this many bullets + 1 in the chamber so i need to shoot this guy this many times and that guy this many times and then turn around and run".

If prices were 100$ for a bullet persay (and im not saying they should be) then it would cost Joe Bob 2200$ to fill that gun up with ammo. Would joe-bob at his medicore job and average income spent 2200$ on ammunation for his gun EVEN if he was a collector? I highly doubt it. But this is just my opinion. There are no hard facts on rage and that people would THINK it through or not even have the ammo to perform such intense violence.

While joe bob filled up his wife and the man with 22 rounds is it not more likely they would have survived if it was only 1 shot? or possibly 2?

Again, no hard evidence. But personally, i do know that 100 x 22 = 2200 and that 100 x 1 = 100. Also rage = dont stop until its dead. And, facts provide that Germany, having better gun control through permits of ammo and other regulations, has a lower percentage of gun violence (much lower) than the united states does.

My idea is not great, its just an idea (for future refrence to prevent someone saying, "YOU THINK YOUR IDEA IS SO GREAT BLAH BLAH BLAH")

Oh, As far as gas prices go, i never go anywhere that i dont have to to prevent spending 10$ every 2 hours. And im sure i wouldnt have loaded guns around my house if bullets cost 100$ or more. So, heh.



and one more thing "BAD NEWS the lawyer’s fees will be much higher than the price of bullets could ever be even if it is self defense." Uh yeah, self-defense, key issue here. I wouldnt mind the cost as long as i was alive. Point exactly. You would think before performing self defense. So thanks for proving me right.


Think before shooting = Less Gun violence.

theres no way around it.



:)

oh yeah. Dont take as me as some liberal democrat. Im defintely not. Im probably the most conserative republican youll ever meet.

i personally like having guns to shoot because i think its exciting (heh, welcome to the south).

anyway. Flame on.

ok, you like having guns to shoot!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you keep track of how much gas you use money wise how in hell would you be able to shoot if bullets were $100 each???

Time for you to join my side if you truley enjoy shooting. It only takes a few people preaching $100 a bullet to run the risk of it becoming law.

If you are a Republican than you know Brady purposely distorts the truth. Those numbers include people killed by police in the line of duty, military deaths, suicides (that alone is over 50% of that number), accidents, and self defense. The German number is ONLY convicted murders! The US is 3 times the size of Germany.

“Think before performing self defense” WOW (not to be confused with WoW) do you really think anyone has ever shot someone in self defense without thinking first? If someone was going to kill your family would you think “wow, saving them would be to costly” NO you would not… but I can guarantee you would not want to say “Fuck 7 gang members just broke into my house and I only have 4 bullets because some know it all college kid thought he had a great idea”.

Lastly all the input here should start to show you one thing: $100 bullets will only take bullets out of law abiding citizens hands including yours.

oabe thinks it would work

yor thinks it wouldnt work.

done.

Oabe,

Good debate. We knew we could not change each others mind and other people seem to have lost interest.

It was fun.

*Hand Shake*

Oabe, the one thing I think you are missing from this is that a firearm is a tool. If joe bob in your previous example wanted to kill his wife and lover he would do it regardless if he had a gun or not (btw 5-7 mags standard capacity are 20 rounds with 1 in the chamber for a total of 21, sorry im kind of a stupid about stuff like that).

If someone is going to kill because they finally snap under pressure they are going to do it with whatever they can get their hands on. Cars kill more people every year in the US then guns do.

Creating a tax like this would only widen the gap between the rich and the poor and unfortunately the poor are victims of crime most often. While this in theory may be a good idea it just creates a better target for criminals because they have less to fear. This is also the reason Violent crime has skyrocketed in the UK and australia, not murders which the US has always led in violent crime.

A man in Detriot last week shot his wife, his mother, his dog and a gas station attendant...

He claimed he was just cleaning his gun when it suddenly went off.

guns dont kill people...people kill people..to say guns do it is like saying your pencil mispelled the word